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Bradley McAuliffe's avatar

I agree with you completely on this Eric.

Sometimes I think that Dr Lindsay and others are looking to extend their own relevance and tenure as influential woke dissidents with this notion. It's 'Prevalence Induced Concept Change' Eric! (I learned about that from you). As the real thing begins to show signs of waning, the definition of woke starts getting expanded in order to preserve just enough 'stock' of it for people like James to keep writing about it! Or am I being too cynical there??

Like all valuable critics of harmful social trends and problems, woke dissidents should in fact welcome, and indeed be trying to bring about, their own obsolescence.

By definition there can indeed be no woke right. I agree that this does reflect the interplay between positive and negative prejudice, sacralization being the positive form in wokeism and demonization the negative one. It is highly unlikely that any mainstream ideological movement could sacralise men and boys and simultaneously demonize women and girls. And we are certainly not seeing the rise of such a thing now.

Another thing that strikes me as significant here is the difference between 'hidden', 'systemic' and 'implied/inferred' discrimination, on the one hand, and and real, measurable, direct discrimination on the other. Wokeism tends to 'specialise', shall we say, in the former. A key part of the state of being woke is being able to "see" the hidden power grids that fall so conveniently around sex, race, gender (Patriarchy; Whiteness, cis-gender Heteronormativity etc.).

This can result in a belief and an insistence upon the existence of prejudice and discrimination even when it isn't there.

Much of the backlash against wokeism from the right is nothing like that. The woke solution to 'imagined' or 'perceived' discrimination is REAL direct discrimination against white people, men and boys etc. Just as it wasn't really 'woke' for 20th century liberal feminists and civil rights activists to call out direct discrimination against women and POC in the past, it surely also isn't woke for people on the right to be concerned about direct discrimination against white men etc today?

One of the worst things about the woke obsession with hidden discrimination, and its response to it, is that it turns something that it THINKS is unjust into something it really KNOWS is unjust.

Pushing back against that isn't woke. It's simply pushing back against an obvious injustice and unfair discrimination.

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James Strock's avatar

Smart analysis as ever. While the right may not be best comprehended as "woke," there are strands of the right that are decidedly illiberal. That can include people who decry woke coercion and then apply corresponding tactics when it suits their purposes and they hold the reins of power. For many on the receiving end, that understandably can prompt applying the woke label to both.

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